the topic on gentrification was interesting... but ultimately it's about TIME. The time in our own lives we live is what scale we measure on. so when we move in to some funky mixed neighborhood, we decry it's movement towards the gentry, because we don't want it to change. But we are not the only ones who see it so and mass movements of any sort create their own inertia. the shopping malls and big-box store follow the money, and gentrification is also about that. In the end to ride the wave is to move every few years, as each place becomes the victim of it's own attributes. The only other way to keep things from changing is for the person running something to control it so that it doesn't change. Like Megan's farmers market... to keep that from being whole food, you will have to have the vision that it must stay the same, and enforce that. It won't do it organically.
The other thing that is a little suspicious from the outside, is that the people often decrying gentrification, are the very same ones that complain about the bad roads, deterioating buildings, and possibly the crime. The very things once fixed that attract many other people causing the gentrification to accellerate, and taking the nature of the neighbohood. The only way to stop that is to stay in the same place, and defy change to an extent. When people flee to the 'burbs, often the only thing left are low-income, and the elderly that refuse to move. If you move into an area like that and stay there long enough, the rate of change slows. Interestingly your perception of change also slows...
I'm seconding the request for a transcript. I'd really much rather read what people think than have to watch a video - it forces me to be a captive to the video instead of reading at my own pace, which may be faster or slower than the video. I personally find the expanding use of video on the web fairly frustrating, as someone who prefers to read.
Bloggingheads really strikes me as an awful format to get contrasting views. You guys are practically cuddling here, and for all the textual sniping that'd gone back and forth between you and Yglesias it was all buddy-buddy there too. For my entertainment's sake I demand more perceived or imagined slights poisining your interpersonal relationships and less wii bowling with matt and ezra
I seriously doubt any of the nerds (myself included) who watch Bloggingheads actually watch the video. I typically listen to the video. A transcript would be nice, though.
I think the lack of conflict actually points to the inner verbal pugnacity of the individuals and the flammability of the topics they're discussing. The Frum/Hurlburt debate had much more conflict, for example. Hurlburt did not give a single inch (and perhaps, she should not have.)
Transcript please. Bloggingheads has got to be the most annoying, self indulgent format ever.
the topic on gentrification was interesting... but ultimately it's about TIME. The time in our own lives we live is what scale we measure on. so when we move in to some funky mixed neighborhood, we decry it's movement towards the gentry, because we don't want it to change. But we are not the only ones who see it so and mass movements of any sort create their own inertia. the shopping malls and big-box store follow the money, and gentrification is also about that. In the end to ride the wave is to move every few years, as each place becomes the victim of it's own attributes. The only other way to keep things from changing is for the person running something to control it so that it doesn't change. Like Megan's farmers market... to keep that from being whole food, you will have to have the vision that it must stay the same, and enforce that. It won't do it organically.
The other thing that is a little suspicious from the outside, is that the people often decrying gentrification, are the very same ones that complain about the bad roads, deterioating buildings, and possibly the crime. The very things once fixed that attract many other people causing the gentrification to accellerate, and taking the nature of the neighbohood. The only way to stop that is to stay in the same place, and defy change to an extent. When people flee to the 'burbs, often the only thing left are low-income, and the elderly that refuse to move. If you move into an area like that and stay there long enough, the rate of change slows. Interestingly your perception of change also slows...
I'm seconding the request for a transcript. I'd really much rather read what people think than have to watch a video - it forces me to be a captive to the video instead of reading at my own pace, which may be faster or slower than the video. I personally find the expanding use of video on the web fairly frustrating, as someone who prefers to read.
Bloggingheads really strikes me as an awful format to get contrasting views. You guys are practically cuddling here, and for all the textual sniping that'd gone back and forth between you and Yglesias it was all buddy-buddy there too. For my entertainment's sake I demand more perceived or imagined slights poisining your interpersonal relationships and less wii bowling with matt and ezra
I seriously doubt any of the nerds (myself included) who watch Bloggingheads actually watch the video. I typically listen to the video. A transcript would be nice, though.
I think the lack of conflict actually points to the inner verbal pugnacity of the individuals and the flammability of the topics they're discussing. The Frum/Hurlburt debate had much more conflict, for example. Hurlburt did not give a single inch (and perhaps, she should not have.)
Megan
Longtime fan, but you barely let Mark get a word in edgewise, especially during the voucher/education discussion.