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30 Jan 2008 03:45 pm

Julian Sanchez and Radley Balko are, to put it mildly, not pleased with Roger Pilon's Wall Street Journal op-ed on FISA. There are only so many topics I can develop an informed opinion on, and national security law is not one where I have tried, so I don't really have anything to add on the substance of the article. But I do think there's an important problem at the heart of Radley's post:

Julian is right, the real impact of Pilon’s op-ed isn’t its persuasiveness (it isn’t, really), it’s the fuel it gives neocons and Bush acolytes to say, “See? Even the libertarian Cato Institute supports warrantless wiretapping…” It also gives Cato’s leftist critics more fuel to say the organization is really no different than, say, Heritage, or AEI.

. . .

I do think it’s a credit to Cato that they allow their scholars to have divergent views on contentious issues. That said, Cato is a libertarian organization. It’s one thing to have internal disputes over issues like intellectual property, incrementalism versus absolutism, or even (at least at the outset), the war in Iraq. But it’s something else to have a scholar making a public case for unchecked executive power to spy on U.S. citizens. Cato would never hire a health care analyst who favors a single-payer health care system. They’d never hire a criminal justice scholar who supports the war on drugs. You might hire, say, an education or trade analyst who doesn’t toe the party line on foreign policy. But you wouldn’t hire an education analyst who thinks we should give more money to the public school system, or a trade guy who supports farm subsidies or steel tariffs.

My opinion on this may reflect a difference in what we write about, because legal writing in general is pretty much exclusively about generating an opinion; there's no expectation that anyone is going to generate independent data. But for economics writing, the reliability of the data set matters, and that means that I have to trust that the person who generated it was at least capable of reaching a conclusion other than the one they ultimately published. I'm already reluctant to use all but the most anodyne data from think tanks--either right or left--precisely because I know that most of the scholars there knew what the answer was before they asked the question. Think tanks that fire people for ideological unsoundness do not get their papers mentioned by me.

I'm not ambivalent about what Cato should do: nothing. No matter how appalling Roger Pilon's position, I think it's better for Cato (and libertarianism) to develop a reputation for tolerating a lot of dissension within the ranks. If people can be fired for developing their own opinions, no matter how stupid or ideologically unsound, then we should stop calling them scholars and start calling them stooges.

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I think Radley Balko’s just upset to find out from a libertarian constitutional scholar that the Constitution doesn’t say what he thinks it should say. It would be nice (from his perspective) if it prohibited “warantless searches” but it doesn’t – it prohibits “unreasonable searches” and what is “reasonable” usually involves a balancing test of the citizen’s reasonable (there’s that word again) expectation of privacy, the interest of the government, and the level of intrusion. Pilon makes a pretty decent argument that given the high stakes involved, the historical treatment of international communications, and the rather modest “intrusion,” the argument weighs pretty strongly in favor of what the president has asked for. Balko might not wish that it was so, but he has so far failed to make a persuasive argument to the contrary. Hence in the grand tradition of true believers everywhere, the heretic must be cast out.

Shouldn't it matter more that Pilon's ideas are batshit insane, rather than just being ideologically deviant from Cato?

Your last sentence is unclear. I don't think you meant to be critical of individuals for having independent opinions, but rather to crticize the employers who fire them. It is the organizations, not the individuals, who are the stooges.

Do you really include Brookings in your blanket comments?

I think 'stooges' is a bit harsh; wouldn't the term 'advocates' suffice for contrasting with 'scholars'?

If people can be fired for developing their own opinions, no matter how stupid or ideologically unsound, then we should stop calling them scholars and start calling them stooges.

What a comically absurd place to invoke this principle.

Sanchez and Balko imply that CATO and Pilon are carrying the administration's water. As evidence, they point to the total crappiness of Pilon's reasoning and its complete divergence from libertarian philosophy. So, for Sanchez and Balko (and me), this isn't an example of CATO "developing their own opinions." It's an example of CATO cringing before power and toadying up to the most anti-libertarian impulses of the current administration.

That sort of government fluffing would be perfectly appropriate for, maybe, Heritage or AEI, but it's completely inappropriate for CATO. If anyone thought Pilon was independently undertaking a deep and philosophical revision of libertarianism, I'm sure he would have been criticized much more substantively.

Given that the Cato Institute has right at the top of their web page that they "Individual Liberty, Free Markets, and Peace," it doesn't seem unreasonable for them to have some ideological boundaries?

I would be willing to criticise them for lying about someone's research or smearing them because they disagreed. But it's perfectly reasonable for them not to hire socialists, statists, etc... who don't believe in their ideals.

I haven't read the article, so maybe Pilon didn't actually advocate unchecked executive power. In that case, Balko is just mistaken in his facts. If he's correct that Pilon is advocating unchecked executive power, then he's right to advocate excluding him... unchecked executive power is incompatible with Individual Liberty.

This isn't an easy issue. Like Megan said, if think tanks don't allow a certain amount of dissent within the ranks then they lose whatever credibility they could have had. (Although, as Megan also said, that credibility is already thin because for think tanks the answer is often already decided before the question is asked.)

OTOH, as others have said, think tanks are advocacy groups. They aren't just places of pure research.

On the issue at hand, I'd say that the best resolution is to recognize that Pilon's column is not merely ideologically incorrect, it's also just batshit insane.

More generally, though, I guess it comes down to what the purpose of a think tank is or should be. They should identify their task (however narrowly or broadly defined) and then pursue that task with as much intellectual rigor as possible, and give their scholars as much freedom as possible within the scope of the task. Not being in the think tank business (and being in an academic discipline that doesn't interact with think tanks very much) I think I should refrain from trying to define their job for them. They should decide what their task is, decide how much ideological diversity is compatible with that task, and then make it clear to their audiences how much ideological diversity is tolerated, so that audiences can judge accordingly.

That's my long way of saying I won't answer.

Ok, I have to retract my implication that CATO is allied with Pilon in his stance. That was wrong, and it mischaracterized Sanchez and Balko's views. My apologies.

Earnest Iconoclast put the case against Pilon far better.

That's quite a fascist position on that part of Julian Sanchez and Radley Balko. Everybody must follow their positions or get fired. Time to enforce the ideological purity - everybody in the movement must march in lockstep!

One would think ostensible libertarians would be a bit more, um, permissive. But of course Sanchez and Balko are not real libertarians anyway.

Not to mention that the statement that the TSP is "unchecked executive power" is just a flat out lie. After all, we are only talking about surveillance for foreign intelligence that is permitted, not domestic. Which is a pretty important check on what the executive can do.

One would think ostensible libertarians would be a bit more, um, permissive. But of course Sanchez and Balko are not real libertarians anyway.

Huh?

Shorter version of what I tried to say above: Instead of asking how much intellectual dissent should be tolerated within a think tank, ask what the purpose of the think tank is and then decide how much intellectual dissent can be tolerated while still advancing that purpose. If the purpose is to produce scholarly work on a wide range of topics of interest to libertarians, then Cato should tolerate just about any view as long as the work focuses on a topic of interest to Cato folks. (Writing about something they find interesting is not necessarily the same as saying something that they'll agree with.) OTOH, if the goal is to produce the best scholarly evidence in support of a viewpoint, then a narrower range of views will be compatible with the mission.

Define the mission, then worry about what's allowed.

Hmm, the "shorter version" wound up being just as long.

We academics don't do brevity, that's for sure.

Many libertarians make the mistake of conflating what is desirable from a Libertarian perspective with what is required by the Constitution.

It may indeed be the case that libertarians should oppose the wiretapping in question -- but that doesn't mean the President exceeded his Constitutional authority by authorizing it. The Constitution permits many things which offend Libertarian sensibilities.

The Constitution permits many things which offend Libertarian sensibilities.

Yes, but searches without judicial oversight are not among those things.

Yes, but searches without judicial oversight are not among those things [the Constitution permits].

Really? Boarded an airplane recently?

Yes, but searches without judicial oversight are not among those things.

As Thorley pointed, out, they most certainly are, under the right circumstances, the Constitution forbidding only unreasonable searches. And there are a number of fairly ordinary situations where warrantless searches are considered acceptable; for instance, searches of cars upon probable cause, frisking of citizens upon "reasonable suspicion" (Terry stops), or searches before boarding airliners and breath tests when driving (both form of coerced consent to search).

Where wiretaps of conversations with one foreign phone number involved fit into this scheme is far from clear to me, but I personally find it less disturbing than the reading of my banking or phone records, neither of which requires a search warrant.

OK, fair point about unreasonable. But indiscriminate wiretaps in violation of statute are most certainly unreasonable.

Al called it right, the only one here.

Go read the article, go read the law(s), and don’t let your bushhate blind you.

The President pretty much does have "unchecked" foreign surv. power. It is there as CIC of the armed forces. Every time a spec-ops snake eater (e.g., Navy Seal) is running around on some other country's dirt uninvited, every time a spy satellite takes a picture, every time a submarine raises an antenna and eavesdrops....the Pres. doesn’t need to ask Congress’ permission.

If you don’t think we’ve been tapping foreign phone (land and air) lines since they first existed, you are very naïve.

With the position some of you are taking, tapping Soviet phone lines during the cold war would’ve required Congress’ permission. It didn’t then, and the equivalent does not now.

There’s no technically distinguishable difference b/w tapping a phone line from an embassy or from the ambassador’s house or a somewhat organized belligerent faction member’s cellphone that doesn’t have declared national borders.

The founding fathers made it that way so that the flapping jaws of Congress didn’t leak classified information to the press for political gain.

Al called it right, the only one here.

Go read the article, go read the law(s), and don’t let your bushhate blind you.

The President pretty much does have "unchecked" foreign surv. power. It is there as CIC of the armed forces. Every time a spec-ops snake eater (e.g., Navy Seal) is running around on some other country's dirt uninvited, every time a spy satellite takes a picture, every time a submarine raises an antenna and eavesdrops....the Pres. doesn’t need to ask Congress’ permission.

If you don’t think we’ve been tapping foreign phone (land and air) lines since they first existed, you are very naïve.

With the position some of you are taking, tapping Soviet phone lines during the cold war would’ve required Congress’ permission. It didn’t then, and the equivalent does not now.

There’s no technically distinguishable difference b/w tapping a phone line from an embassy or from the ambassador’s house or a somewhat organized belligerent faction member’s cellphone that doesn’t have declared national borders.

The founding fathers made it that way so that the flapping jaws of Congress didn’t leak classified information to the press for political gain.

You can't even move the goalposts properly.

FIRST, you have to actually make a case that TSP equals "indiscriminate wiretaps". THEN you can move on to your conclusion.

Oh, and Mr "anyone who disagrees me is clearly batshit insane"? You are self-parodying, so I needn't bother. Good day.

Oh, and Mr "anyone who disagrees me is clearly batshit insane"?

Accuse me of moving goalposts if you like, but at least characterize my stance correctly.

Actually, anyone who disagrees with ME is batshit insane, and I was the first one to use the phrase in this thread. Please move the goalposts over my ball.

Wow, liberals are too lazy to even move their own goalposts.

Wow, liberals are too lazy to even move their own goalposts.

I'd rather let some illegal immigrants in and pay them $3/hour to move the goalposts for me. Moving the goalposts that Americans won't move.

Yes, but searches without judicial oversight are not among those things

It is by no means obvious that eavesdropping constitutes a "search", Thoreau. The Constitution states that "[the] right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated". How does listening to your voice fall into one of those categories?

But indiscriminate wiretaps in violation of statute are most certainly unreasonable.

I see no reason to assume that the wiretaps are "indiscriminate". As for their being prohibited by statute, neither Congress nor the Judicial branch have the authority to limit the legitimate Constitutional powers of the Presidency by statute. If the country is at war (and it is) and its enemies are using our domestic communications system (and they are), then what is "unreasonable" about monitoring that communications system?

If you define terrorist activity as warfare, then you are basically saying that we are and will be in a state of perpetual warfare, since there will always be terrorists in this world.

A Republic cannot survive as such if it conducts itself in the manner of a nation in a perpetual state of war. It will degenerate into an empire and police state. War is the health of the state, and eternal war is the guaranteed death of liberty.

Please stop saying goalposts.

If it were just an issue of discussing constitutionality, Pilon's piece would fall just fine within Cato's mission. While I think it's a pretty clear constitutional violation, I have no problem with Pilon arguing that the program is perfectly constitutional.

Where I have a problem, though, is that Pilon's piece seems to go far beyond arguing that the program is objectively constitutional, and goes into the realm of arguing that the program is a normatively good - even necessary - thing regardless of Constitutional concerns. Indeed, he at times seems to quite clearly argue for untrammeled executive power, saying that the solution to a "SECRET" wiretap program isn't legislative or judicial, but is merely political. Since the program is supposed to be secret, this effectively means that no oversight is even possible. After all, if the program is secret, how can there be a political solution to it?

In the end, Pilon goes so far as to say that the program is not only constitutional, but is also within the proper realm of the executive powers of government more generally. In the process, he even goes so far as to disingenuously quote John Locke.

Now, I'm not arguing that Pilon should be fired; but it is extremely difficult to make a case that Pilon's normative position has any connection whatsoever with libertarianism.

If you define terrorist activity as warfare, then you are basically saying that we are and will be in a state of perpetual warfare, since there will always be terrorists in this world.

I didn't define terrorist activity as warfare. However, the US Congress declared war on Al Qaeda back in 2001 and has not, thus far, rescinded that declaration of war. So I think it is entirely accurate to say that we are at war with Al Qaeda.

A Republic cannot survive as such if it conducts itself in the manner of a nation in a perpetual state of war. It will degenerate into an empire and police state. War is the health of the state, and eternal war is the guaranteed death of liberty.

Just because eternal war is bad for liberty wouldn't automagically make it unconstitutional. But in any case, like I noted above, there's nothing "eternal" about our war with Al Qaeda.

So I think it is entirely accurate to say that we are at war with Al Qaeda.

Forgive me for being naive. Is it even legal to declare war on an entity which we haven't recognized as a nation? How does that work?

I'm not calling on Cato to fire Roger. That would be pretty presumptuous. That's Cato's decision. And there's really no reason for them to care what I think.

I was trying to convey a few things in that post:

1) Roger's position on this particular issue goes beyond your usual disagreement among libertarians. He's calling for broad executive power to fight an endless war, unchecked by the judiciary. And it isn't the first time he's done so.

2) He's virtually alone at Cato in holding the position he does. Certainly among the people there who write on criminal justice and civil liberties issues.

3) He's also Cato's most senior scholar on constitutional issues, which makes his position quite a bit more significant than, say, one of Cato's trade people supporting the war in Iraq.

Whether that's enough for Cato to end their relationship with him is, again, Cato's decision.

But Megan, certainly there's some point at which a think tank with a philosophical outlook might rightfully terminate an employee over disagreement on issues, isn't there?

If an employee at a libertarian think tank suddenly called for a fourth branch of government, maybe? Came out in favor of internment camps? Suspending habeas?

If more of us libertarians read Hoffer's 'True Believer,' fewer of us would be attracted to the destructive absolutism of ideological purity. Oh, those ideo/theologues, both on the Right and the Left, and those puritans, both among the moralizing socialist Left and the moralizing religious Right: While pointing an accusatory finger, they are always nervously flicking a whip, in anxious anticipation.

Freedom is a philosophy, not an ideology. The longer libertarians adopt freedom as an ideology to guide their life, the longer the inherent self-contradictions of freedom as an ideology will constrain libertarianism. As a philosophy, freedom is an anabolic guide to a flourishing life. As an ideology, freedom is not much better than any other ideology; grounded in myths and fantasies, full of intolerance and hate.

Rousseau's 'dark side' offered freedom as an ideology; to this day, there are no schools, streets, or cities named for Napoleon, who took the ideology of freedom seriously and attempted to export it from the barrel of a gun. Megan appears to have freedom as a personal philosophy to help guide her life; many of the commentors obviously have freedom as their ideology.

Guess which is holding a whip, and decide for yourselves which is more intellectually honest.

Forgive me for being naive. Is it even legal to declare war on an entity which we haven't recognized as a nation?

Like the Confederate States of America, you mean? :)

How does that work?

Congress can declare war on whatever it wants to, for whatever reason it wants to, for however long it wants to. "The Congress shall have Power [...] to declare War" -- that's the entirety of the Constitutional guidance here.

Pilon's comments should be examined in the context of what has been happening there since 9/11 and especially since the Iraq War. Cato, it should be recalled, led a fierce opposition against the less controversial First Gulf War, but has remained on the margins of the debate over the Second Gulf War. Pilon, like several other leading figures at Cato, such as Brink Lindsey and Tom Palmer has backed Bush's foreign policy and his Freedom Agenda in the Middle East (and not unlike many neocons they are now criticizing Bush for the "mismanagement" of the war). Moreover, many of Cato's financial contributors have backed the War and have threatened to end their support if Cato sounded too negative on the issue. The result? If you were the Man from Mars reading Cato's website and its publications in the last year, you wouldn't know that the War has been the central topic of debate in Washington and around the country. In addition to the firing of war critic Charles Pena, much of their small foreign policy team has been playing a very low-key in discussing the War and related issues. In that regard, Pilon's position and the fact that he continues to exert so much influece at Cato is not a reflection of intellectual pluralism and let-a-hundred-schools of-thought-contend attitude. It's another example of the attempt by the pro-War Wing at Cato to extend their influence and suffocate the debate.

Moreover, many of Cato's financial contributors have backed the War and have threatened to end their support if Cato sounded too negative on the issue.

What are their names?

I note that "symbolicanalyst" is in error in stating that I have "backed Bush's foreign policy and his Freedom Agenda in the Middle East (and not unlike many neocons they are now criticizing Bush for the "mismanagement" of the war)." That is false. I opposed the decision to go to war and favor withdrawing U.S. forces. I traveled to Iraq to assist those who favored a constitutional republic based on limited government, as I would have done in Germany, Italy, Japan, or the other defeated powers after World War II. I also publicly criticized crazy people who applauded killing the occupying forces as not, in fact, in favor of peace and as certainly not helping those who were making the case for withdrawing forces. That criticism drew the ire of said crazy people, who now mischaracterize my views across whatever corners of the blogosphere they can reach.

The Cato Institute has hardly sat on the sidelines, but has produced a large amount of solid research and advocacy for a sane and rational foreign policy, including withdrawing military forces from Iraq and blocking the push to war with Iran, as even a quick look at the website of the Cato Institute would show. "Symbolicanalyst" may be disappointed that that research and advocacy is not unhinged and shrill, but he or she cannot claim that it does not exist. I can think of no think tank that has done more to oppose foolish and irrational interventionism than the Cato Institute. (Posting unhinged blog entries on websites doesn't count.)

Moreover, I dissent quite strongly from Roger Pilon's position on whether the administration may order wiretapping of American citizens in communication with non-citizens abroad without a court order. But the point of this posting is to correct the false statement from "symbolicanalyst."

I'm glad that many at Cato, even the (in?)famous Tom Palmer, disagree with Roger Pilon. My only comment is that if you get donations from people who are libertarian and they see what they think as a group meant to do research from a libertarian point of view or advocate positions from a generally libertarian standpoint, what do you think will happen to donations when Cato gets a reputation for having researchers with these very unlibertarian opinions. There's nothing wrong with dissent among libertarians so long as they generally stand up against government interventions like the one that Roger Pilon would rather stand and applaud. Cato has done a lot of good work (I'm more of a Misean, but I like most of what they do) and it's sickening to me that one of their researchers would write such garbage.

Cato is usually great on the economy and I love Radley Balko's work on civil rights, but it's hard for a libertarian to give money to an organization that has columnists who support warrantless wiretaps (or war in general). If Cato abandons their libertarian message they might be one more think tank trying to raise money and they might succeed, but it's about more than raising money.

I don't have the time and the energy to spend on schmoozing with "Tom Palmer" online. Before you know, he'll be accusing me of being one of those "crazy people, who now mischaracterize my views across whatever corners of the blogosphere they can reach." But he writes that he was "opposed the decision to go to war." I assume that he has some evidence to support the claim that he opposed the decision to go to war b-e-f-o-r-e the war started. I checked the Cato site and did some googling and could find any evidence that the "Vice President for International Programs, Center for Promotion of Human Rights" at Cato opposed the war before the war started, a war that btw led to the establishment of a government that is under the influence of Shiite groups who repress women, gays, etc., and a war, that unlike WWII was a war of choice that was waged based on false claims aka lies, by government. Palmer also writes that he favors "withdrawing U.S. forces." I suggest that you read his comments in and in From that perspective, AEI scholars also support withdraqal from Iraq "if" the Iraqis could protect themselves, and if only this and if only that. Finally and back to the original point I made. I didn't deny that the members of the foreign policy team at Cato have expressed opposition to the war. But I also pointed out that Lindsey, Palmer and Pilon exerted their influence as part of an effort to tone-down that opposition.

ooops..sorry..here are the links to Palmer's comments:
and

sorry again, but the links don't show up. So please read:

1. Three Views on Iraq, Three Years Later
In May 2003 George W. Bush declared "mission accomplished" in Iraq. A trio of analysts debates the current state of the region. reason.com June 2006.
2. Cato's Letters "Building a Free Society in Iraq" Summer 2005.

sorry again, but the links don't show up. So please read:

1. Three Views on Iraq, Three Years Later
In May 2003 George W. Bush declared "mission accomplished" in Iraq. A trio of analysts debates the current state of the region. reason.com June 2006.
2. Cato's Letters "Building a Free Society in Iraq" Summer 2005.

sorry again, but the links don't show up. So please read:

1. Three Views on Iraq, Three Years Later
In May 2003 George W. Bush declared "mission accomplished" in Iraq. A trio of analysts debates the current state of the region. reason.com June 2006.
2. Cato's Letters "Building a Free Society in Iraq" Summer 2005.

There are only so many topics I can develop an informed opinion on, and national security law is not one where I have tried, so I don't really have anything to add on the substance of the article.

The President's illegal authorization of warrantless wiretapping, JUST TO PROVE THE POINT THAT HE COULD DO IT, is not merely a matter of arcane "national security law." It is part and parcel of a concerted attack on Constitutional government. The issues at stake are easily grasped; if the President can declare that he can ignore THIS law with impunity, where does it end? Perhaps Miranda rights can be suspended via executive order, in the name of more quickly and effectively imprisoning "terrorists." Perhaps indefinite detentions of American citizens on American soil are permissible, because until you can determine whether liberalrob is a terrorist isn't it safer to just lock him up? And you have to keep him incommunicado, because he might send secret orders via his visitors or lawyer to his terrorist buddies to put their nefarious plans into action.

Glenn Greenwald has been blogging about FISA legislation and the President's illegal wiretapping for YEARS now. He even wrote a book about it, "How Would a Patriot Act?", which explores in detail the history and theory behind the President's illegal acts. I highly encourage you to pick up that book, which is not very thick and is easily readable in an afternoon, and educate yourself on just what has been going on for the past 6+ years.

My only comment is that if you get donations from people who are libertarian and they see what they think as a group meant to do research from a libertarian point of view or advocate positions from a generally libertarian standpoint, what do you think will happen to donations when Cato gets a reputation for having researchers with these very unlibertarian opinions.

Possibly an empty threat there, John. There's LOTS of wingnut welfare money available for those who will carry the neocons' water. Maybe even more than a libertarian slant could bring in.

As far as TFA, I think it speaks for itself:

Today the Senate takes up a bipartisan surveillance authorization measure that's already passed the Intelligence Committee. The clock is ticking. This Friday a temporary law called the Protect America Act will expire. If Congress does not act before then, the president's statutory power to prevent terrorist attacks will be seriously compromised.

Pilon starts right off the bat with the most blatant of all lying, prevaricating, misleading, untrue, baldfaced LIES (and yes I repeat myself) that there are about this FISA legislation. THIS is what we get from learned Constitutional Scholar Pilon? Let's tick off the LIES this "Constitutional expert" lays down right there in paragraph ONE:

1) Even if the PAA "expired" as it stood, the administration still could operate existing programs under its provisions for ONE YEAR post-expiration.

2) The President does NOT have "statutory power to prevent terrorist attacks." Certainly not under the PAA itself, which only relates to intelligence gathering. To what statute does Pilon refer? Since he neglects to say, and since the Constitution doesn't explicitly grant such authority (a matter of dispute here, I'm sure!), perhaps Pilon refers to the Authorization to Use Military Force Against Terrorists; but it's a big stretch to say that implementing action under the AUMF-T is so dependent on the PAA that it will be "seriously compromised" if the PAA lapses, given that intelligence-gathering would IN NO WAY be prohibited- it would simply have to be done under the still-active FISA framework, where the administration must get a FISC judge's approval for wiretaps up to 72 hours after the data collection. And THAT'S what the admin really objects to.

3) And that's LIE #3, because there would be no "serious compromise" to the President's ability to stop terrorist attacks. The FISA process is perfectly capable of allowing the necessary data collection. The problem is, the President doesn't want to be bound by it.

So 3 big LIES in the very first paragraph are the basis of Serious Constitutional Expert Roger Pilon's support for quick renewal of the PAA, giving the Executive Branch unrestricted power to collect intelligence however it sees fit without any oversight whatsoever, even of a compliant FISC judge in secret.

If this is what the Cato Institute wants to have its "founder and director of Cato's Center for Constitutional Studies, which has become an important force in the national debate over constitutional interpretation and judicial philosophy" advocating in their name, I have a feeling that a significant number of individuals are going to reevaluate the desirability of aligning themselves with the Cato Institute. As I said to John, there may be more money in signing up wingnuts to carry the neocons' water with the prestigious Cato Institute name attached, but it signals a definite philosophical position that I don't think most people traditionally associate with the Cato Institute.

Kudos to Julian Sanchez and Radley Balko for standing up for Constitutional government.

I'm not ambivalent about what Cato should do: nothing. No matter how appalling Roger Pilon's position, I think it's better for Cato (and libertarianism) to develop a reputation for tolerating a lot of dissension within the ranks.

Cato is not a neutral organization, like, e.g., an education think tank whose mission is to explore ways to improve the educational system (which could in principle include any point of view, from the libertarian to the conservative to the liberal to the Marxist, and more).

Cato is there to promote libertarian ideology. It can only tolerate so much dissent from its members before it must consider them no longer libertarians, if the term is to have any meaning.

That's quite a fascist position on that part of Julian Sanchez and Radley Balko. Everybody must follow their positions or get fired. Time to enforce the ideological purity - everybody in the movement must march in lockstep!

Cato is a private organization and should have the right to fire anyone it wants. Nothing fascist about that.

One would think ostensible libertarians would be a bit more, um, permissive.

Pilon can have any views he wants. But he should not be writing for a libertarian organization if he is not a libertarian.

But of course Sanchez and Balko are not real libertarians anyway.

Please explain what you mean.

I am continually amazed by those who screamed "You didn't connect the dots.", but defended erecting a wall between subsets of the dots so that they could not easily be connected; and, now argue that many of the dots should not be collected at all.

You may believe your liberty is somehow infringed by the collection of the dots. You may also believe that you should be free to prostrate yourselves before our enemies. However, I believe you limit my freedom and endanger my liberty when you insist that I must prostrate myself before our enemies as well.

It is one thing to "feed the alligator" in the hope that it will eat you last; it is quite another to feed me to the alligator in that hope.

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