Two days ago, I discovered your new Cherry Chocolate Diet Doctor Pepper. My heart leaped. A song sprang to my lips. Finally, something to break the tedious monotony of the 97 Diet Cokes I consume every day. Once, often twice a day, I have been trekking down to the CVS in my office building that carries your product to replenish my stock.
Today, I discover that you are planning to discontinue this product--nay, that you already have, as today is May First, and Wikipedia states that you are only producing it through April.
I am shocked and hurt. I grieve. I thought we'd found something beautiful together, and yet as soon as I give my heart to you, you shamelessly break it. Ain't I a woman? If you prick me, do I not bleed? Have you no shame, sir? At long last, have you no shame?
Well, I have none. I beg. I plead. I grovel and abase myself. Please do not discontinue my new favorite soda.
Or at least, tell me where I can buy a few cases.
Sincerely,
Megan McArdle






Hopefully you will get the same reaction the "Save Surge" crowd did and get a new drink (Vault) that is basically the same flavor, albeit a few years late.
I'm annoyed at the seeming prevalence of "diet only" versions of these new flavors. Diet soda still taste like garbage, and adding "cherry chocolate" to them doesn't mask the still odd taste.
Diet soda is something you have to drink for a week or two to get used to.
Then it becomes good and normal soda tastes too sweet.
toxic: Thank you for that comment. I always wondered how people could drink it, but this encourages me to just suck it up and make the healthy choice.
Who'd have thunk and actual useful comment on a blog? Thanks again.
Start with diet ginger ale. It's almost instantly preferable to regular, because it's drier
While you're at it, pick me up some Pepsi Clear.
How did you first think to try Cherry Chocolate Diet Doctor Pepper? Were you on a desert island for weeks and a can washed up on the beach?
It may be the best thing ever, but I can't imagine under what dire circumstance I'd have though - hum Cherry Chocolate Diet Doctor Pepper I'll take a can of that please.
"What have you got to drink?"
"We have Mountain Dew and crab juice."
"Ewww, gross. I'll take the crab juice!"
Scandalous!
But I admit I've never understood the purpose of sugar substitutes, particularly in soft drinks. It tastes weird and always seemed designed as a way for people to live out their desire for fizzy, watered-down syrups without the guilt. I got weaned off them all once, and probably consume less than a gallon over the course of a year. (Beer's another story entirely, I'm not on any dietary or lifestyle crusade. :-)
I hate the artificial sweeteners. But it is interesting how different the American Coke tastes in comparison to the European Coke. The biggest difference appears to stem from the predominance of corn syrup in the American version, as compared to cane or beet sugar in the European product.
In my next report, I'll compare flavors of E85 and pure petroleum gasoline...
these are some expensive 12-packs
http://sodafinder.com/
Megan
I know this might seem radical but you will feel a lot better if you give up soda altogether. The fizz isn't good for you and blocks absorbtion of calcium into your bones. I have given up soda except for the occasional diet coke on a weekend. It really is much better to drink water ( I know its boring but for fun I drink Pelligrino!)
Have you no shame not linking to the Merchant of Venice!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x2W12A8Qow
The artificial sweetener aspartame (NutraSweet, Equal, NatraTaste, Canderel) is without question the most toxic and health-destroying "food" sold to consumers. The number of people who have recognized toxicity reactions or damage from chronic aspartame ingestion is well over one million people in the U.S. (based on the reported toxicity reactions divided by the estimated reporting rate). While many people's health has already been destroyed by this product, the more serious concern is the long-term nervous system damage, immune system damage, and irreversible genetic damage known to be caused by aspartame's metabolite, formaldehyde. Formaldehyde can cause severe health problems at exceptionally low levels of exposure.
"These are indeed extremely high levels for adducts of formaldehyde, a substance responsible for chronic deleterious effects that has also been considered carcinogenic.
....
"It is concluded that aspartame consumption may constitute a hazard because of its contribution to the formation of formaldehyde adducts."
[Life Sci. (scientific journal), Vol. 63, No. 5, pp. 337+, 1998]
It can be difficult to get a sense of the widespread harm that this toxic product has caused without printing out and reading completely through the Aspartame Toxicity Reaction Samples that are available on the Aspartame (NutraSweet) Toxicity Information Center web page. This document will take a minute or two to load in web browser so please be patient.
"I know from my own experience, the levels of devastation this product are real. I have lesions on the left temporal lobe of my brain and a series of seizures to prove it. .... "I drank diet coke for YEARS.... loved the stuff.. and 'tho everyone told me (vaguely) that Aspartame was bad for me.. did I listen?? Noooooo. Annnnd I paid the price."
Some people may ask, "Well, didn't the research prove that it is safe?" The answer is "No!". Nearly 100% of the independent scientific research has found problems with aspartame. Those independent research studies are cited and discussed in detail on the Aspartame Frequently Asked Questions web page and on several other web pages on the Internet. Researchers and physicians are encouraged to followup on these studies.
Primarily, the only research that claims aspartame is safe is that which has been funded and/or controlled by the manufacturer (e.g., Monsanto). They put together convincing-sounding summaries of poorly-designed research in order to present to the public. When the research is examined closely it is found that the testing was often done improperly, the results were often reported inaccurately or in a biased way, and the equivalent of extremely low doses of aspartame was often used even though the summaries reported the use of high doses.
"Corporate control of NutraSweet testing continues at Monsanto, torturing the ethics of academic medicine."
[Prevailing Winds, Issue 1, 1995]
Sometimes, the manufacturer points to the fact that aspartame has been approved in many countries. But none of these countries even tested aspartame. They relied on the manufacturer's pre-approved "research" which was aptly described by an FDA Investigator:
"They [manufacturer] lied and they didn't submit the real nature of their observations because had they done that it is more than likely that a great number of these studies would have been rejected simply for adequacy. What [the manufacturer] did, they took great pains to camouflage these shortcomings of the study. As I say filter and just present to the FDA what they wished the FDA to know and they did other terrible things for instance animals would develop tumors while they were under study. Well they would remove these tumors from the animals."
[US Congressional Record, Volume 131, No. 106, August 1, 1985, pages S10826-S10827]
http://www.ethicalinvesting.com/monsanto/aspartame.shtml
I was reading until you compared aspartane to formaldehyde.
And brain lesions cause someone drank coke?
Post hoc ergo proctor hoc much?
Post some research please, otherwise I'm going to pack this away in the cell phones cause brain cancer and vaccines causing autism folder.
And as to why people drink diet: once you get used to it it tastes great (no really). And you aren't drinking all that sugar. Cutting out normal soda is an easy way to lose and keep of a lot of weight (if you drink a lot).
If anyone from Cadbury-Scweppes does stumble onto this post, please make dnL (7up upside down) available again. If need be, I'll purchase it by the pallet online. Coca-Cola's Vault is alright, but it pales in comparison to the sweet nectar that was dnL.
By the way, both dnL and Vault are way better than Surge.
How about you just drink, you know, water? Easier than soda. Tastes better too. Plus, word round the camp fire is that those crazy vegans drink it.
I tried one bottle of the Diet Cherry Chocolate Dr. Pepper. To its credit it tasted exactly like I thought it would. I have not picked up another bottle.
My partner has about 18 cans of Surge remaining from the hundreds upon hundreds he bought when they discontinued it. He doesn't even like it anymore, but sometimes people will come over, see it in the pantry, and say "oh, hey, Surge!" Reportedly it tastes just as good now, which is to say terrible.
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http://aspartamekills.com/
Dr. Blaylock talks about Aspartame and other Excitotoxins and how they Dumb Down Society in "Sweet Remedy"
Megan: All good products get canceled - see Coke C2. (I'd add Coke Blak, too, but evidently I'm the only person on Earth that liked it.)
Aspartame poisoning: You're a gullible person.
Wanna buy a bridge?
Oh, and also - Diet Rite (secretly "Diet RC") is a superior beverage to plain Diet Coke, which tastes like, well, ass.
(And the best diet beverage, in my opinion? Plain Diet Dr. Pepper. Adding fake cherry and fake chocolate flavor to it sounds like the worst idea I can imagine that would simultaneously appeal to someone else.)
How do people like Coke Zero as opposed to Diet Coke? I am an inveterate Diet Coke drinker, but I have found Coke Zero to be smoother and less harsh.
Then again, I like the harsh, angry taste of Diet Coke.
Two words: "Coke Zero". Diet Coke is $#@%; Diet Pepsi is better; Coke Zero is almost the real thing.
Sigvald: "All good products get canceled - see Coke C2."
Couldn't you just mix Coke and Coke Zero (or maybe Diet Coke with Splenda; I can't remember which formula the "diet half" of C2 was) half-and-half and get pretty much the same beverage?
The funny thing about "true" Coke is that it's really not that sweet and what really dominates is the lime flavor; all the diets (including Zero) are actually sweeter to my palate than genuine Coke is.
Klug: I really can't stand Diet Coke, but I like Coke Zero. I can't really quantify why, but I think a big part of it is that Diet Coke is much more Pepsi-like in its flavor and I'm a Coke person.
Cherry Chocolate Dr Pepper is odd.
The first time I drank it, I thought "I HAVE WAITED MY ENTIRE LIFE FOR THIS FLAVOR TO PASS MY LIPS!!!" and I bought a couple of cases.
I give the cans away to friends who haven't tried it now. They say "Wow! That's really good!" and I tell them that that sensation goes away after a can or three and you're just stuck thinking "I should not be drinking cherry tootsie roll pops".
I drink one caffeine free diet pepsi a day. The rest of the day I drink a liter of low sodium club soda. I like the fizzy...
Oh my, Coke Zero I tried once, and the stuff has absolutely no flavor to me! I'd much sooner drink Diet Coke than this. Interestingly, Pepsi's diet products taste much better to me. I usually stock up on Pepsi One when I can.
I'm actually surprised to find people that like Diet Cherry Chocolate Dr. Pepper. That's one that I bought accidentally, thinking it was just your plain old Diet Dr. Pepper. Took one swig and was absolutely nauseated. Tried to drink it a few more times so as not to let that $1.39 plus tax go to waste, but I just couldn't finish it. Give me regular old Diet Dr. Pepper any day!
LOL!!!!!
LOL!!!!!
Here in Socal, we get Hecho en Mexico Coca-Cola™: sugar, not corn syrup, comes in an eight ounce "classic" Coke bottle. I think Coke may be marketing it now, as there seems to have been an increase in supply. Previously it was just brought over the border by people who wanted the flavor, or the cute little bottles).
I saw a can of Dr Pepper in the 99¢ Only Store some months back, it stated it was made w/ suger, not corn syrup, but I didn't try it. And have never seen it again.
MB:
Where might one acquire such a bottle in SoCal? Would Vons/Ralphs/Stater Bros. have such a delight?
I cannot imagine why anyone would drink Dr. Pepper except as a penance. Adding chocolate and artificial sweetener to the mix would be the doings of a severe confessor.
Klug, if you go to taquerias, you can ask for it. Often times, they have it, but give me the corn syrup ones if I don't specifically ask for sucrose.
Thanks, t. I think I saw a few bottles last night at Fry's, of all places.
Personally, I found Cherry Chocolate Diet Dr. Pepper to be disgusting - the comparison with a cherry tootsie roll pop is apt. I like the normal Diet Dr. Pepper and the Cherry Vanilla variant. I don't think chocolate works as a flavor in soda for most people.
The greatest recent diet soda entry for me is Pepsi Max - twice the caffeine as normal Diet Pepsi (plus a whole bunch of random stuff that doesn't do anything) and it's a bit mellower in taste and carbonation.
Cherry Vanilla Diet Dr Pepper was a bit of an addiction of many many women I went to college with (2004ish).
I never understood it. Give me my pain Diet DP and I'm happy.