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Kindle notes

18 May 2008 11:58 am

If possible, I love my Kindle even more than I did when I reviewed it a few weeks ago. I've got about 50 books on it, and I love always having something with me to read. I also love the ease of using it one handed, and checking my email from anywhere. As far as I'm concerned, it's better than a book. The biggest downsides are that not everything I want to read is on it yet, and conversely, that it's awful easy to spend a hell of a lot of money browsing. But there's so much cheap content from the public domain that this is not a huge issue.

Arnold Kling, however, has a different experience:

It turns out that my reading style is to scan. Sometimes I'll be in the third chapter of a book and start asking myself what the author is getting at. So I'll flip to the conclusion. Or I'll jump ahead to what I think is a more important chapter. Although one can use the Kindle that way, it takes a lot more thought and effort than with a paper book.

My main concern continues to be with what is available on the Kindle. The typical semi-academic nonfiction that I read tends to be unavailable. My guess is that if I stick with the Kindle it will skew my reading in the direction of more popular nonfiction.

I'm not the first one to say this, but it's probably bad to try to replicate an older media experience using a new technology. Instead, if a new device is going to have real impact, it has to be adapted in unexpected ways. For that purpose, the proprietary Kindle format and the closed operating system are its most serious flaws. If it could be hacked, I could imagine it being used for email or blogging. Or it might become a vehicle for new scholarly journals, or cheaper textbooks.

But as a closed system, you have to compare it to book technology. It is easier to purchase, carry, and store books on the Kindle. But it is harder to read them.

I find it easier to read than a book, because it's so little work to turn the pages. On the other hand, I tend to read straight through, rather than paging forward. I find it easy enough to go to the next chapter using the table of contents menu choice that this hasn't even registered on my list of potential annoyances.

I think the usefulness depends a lot on how you read. If you read a lot of books, it's great; if you only read a few, it's not worth the money. If you travel, it's vital; if you rarely leave home, it's probably not. And if you're a plodder who starts and goes straight through, it's probably better than if you like to flip. Still, most people I know who have them, love them.

Comments (29)

Here's a self-interested question to (perhaps) keep me from buying one - can you use it in Europe? Does the cloud drift across the Atlantic?

I'm a flipper - and an inveterate index scanner. Tyler Cowen found that awkward.

Still and all, I might buy one....

You might have to download the books from your computer, but yes, you could use it in Europe.

The Whispernet part - ie wireless - will not work in europe as it communicates over EVDO (ie the advanced data version of CDMA) which is unique to North American, Japan and South Korea. I am not even sure if it would roam in Canada.

My kindle freed me from the tyranny of the bookshelf. I read a lot, and my local library has very little- so my home was starting to look like a library! Unconsciously, I had started to think "I'd like to read that, but I just don't have shelf space."

Kindle has freed me to read anything anytime I want!

Unfortunately, according to the Amazon website, legal restrictions prevent them selling kindles outside the US.

For that purpose, the proprietary Kindle format and the closed operating system are its most serious flaws.

In particular, DRM is the flaw. Without DRM, you could buy the Kindle and then, if another vendor came along with technology you liked better, you could switch and move all your books. But as it is, once you buy a Kindle and spend the money to build a library of proprietary books, you're stuck with Amazon's closed system (or have to abandon the virtual shelves of books you bought).

It was actually Megan's review that finally tipped the balance for me, and I have been really happy with it for the week or so I've had it so far.

It's been great for reading paperback science fiction novels. And I have personally enjoyed the fact that the design discourages skipping/scanning, but I could see that this might not always be a feature for non-fiction.

Not needing two hands to read is really a nice change:
-riding 40 minutes each way on Metro
-while eating (set it down and then just use pinky taps to turn the page--or take it outside on nice days)
-in bed (I don't knock the little Mighty Bright light out of place when turning the page)

The best feature of all--at least for me--may actually be the black cover. I like to take a book to lunch, but walking through the office on my way out while carrying a novel (especially a big trade paperback or hardcover) does not present quite the right image for my professional office. With the black cover closed, it looks like I'm on my way to a meeting with my datebook.

Some "not yets":
-opinion piece authors not included in the Washington Post table of contents
-the "experimental" browser is slow and cuts off pages
-I'd pay for The Atlantic Voices blogs, but they aren't listed yet

For me it's the DRM that's the main objection. When I buy a book it's mine until I make a conscious decision to dispose of it. With proprietary DRM I do not have that option...it's mine only so long as the original device lasts or until the vendor decides to give me an option to move it to another device. In my opinion, that, along with some silly pricing decisions, are the main objections.

Secondarily, despite the cheerful maps showing EVDO at my home, there is absolutely no usable coverage. Much of the attraction goes away when you go back to the tied to computer model. For those of you in the major cities and in the flatlands you need to understand that cell and EVDO coverage in the non-flat parts of the country are very much hit and miss, the cell carriers flat-earth mapping not to the contrary.

But the DRM is the real issue. There must be a way for the buyer's ownership rights to survive longer than the vendor wants to support a given scheme.

I keep hoping someone will buy me a Kindle. I want one almost bad enough to pay for it myself!

For those who have too many books on their shelves (like me) send the excess to our troops in Iraq.

I was in the Navy and the only thing that kept me sane when we were at sea was books. I've probably sent 100-150 books that I figured I would never read again to troops and they were greatly appreciated. Doesn't matter the topic, fiction or non-fiction. I don't have any romance paperbacks for those who do, don't forget there are lots of women serving in Iraq and they would probably appreciate them.

I'd been sending books through some of my contacts. The PO has Priority Mail flat rate boxes, about the size of a shoe box that will probably fit 10-12 paperbacks. They cost less than $10 to mail to an APO box.

Google Books + troops +Iraq and you will find a number of organizations that can give you addresses to send to.

John Henry

I gave my wife a kindle (that had no phone...)

I'm very impressed. I've been kinda putting off getting one hoping they would incorporate an electronic notepad (stylus-based_ and clean up the ergonomics a bit. Unfortunately both seem unlikely. In other ways I think it is a great combination of service & device. I'd also like to see them support the free text formats a little better.

I was an early adopter to the Sony e-reader. It does many of these things, but without the network/newspaper, etc. Also, the discounts on books aren't as big with Sony, although it handles the files from gutenberg, etc. nicely.

Most annoying thing? When the plan is taking off or landing and they make you shut if off!

John Henry -

Thanks for the information and suggestion. I have way too many books and would love to send some to the troops in Iraq.


As I've said in other threads, another alternative to a Kindle or traditional paperbacks is audiobooks that you can listen to on an MP3 player. Now that Amazon has bought Audible.com, I'm hoping that Audible's selection and usability will be even greater.

Granted, recordings won't be useful for those that like to flip through books.

I looked up the last 10 books I've read, all "typical semi-academic nonfiction," not even the more obscure ones that start off as dissertations, and none of them are available. That's obviously a dealbreaker. If I read popular fiction or those "current events" books by journalists that are 150 words per page and 200 pages, it might make sense for me.

Also, most of my books are 6" by 9". Does the smaller screen make any difference?

I can see this leading to a great snobbery competition, like the tension between Apple products and Indie music:

"The books I read are only available on paper. Plus, paper reads better than digital."

"I read that before it was on Kindle."

In response to the "Does it work in Europe" question, I took my kindle with me to New Zealand. The device itself works fine. The "whispernet" (cell network) did not work. When I chose to purchase a few additional books, I had to first download them to my laptop, then transfer them to my kindle. That wasn't that much of a hardship and it allowed me to pay US prices for books (big difference) as well as save me spending several hours during prime "touristy" time book shopping as I could do it from the comfort of a pizza joint that had wifi. One thing to pay attention to is that the battery life is substantially longer if you disable the radio.

I've found that if is much easier to carry a small library with me to occupy downtime than it was prior to having an ebook reader. Also, I've found that the (within the US) instant get a book/newspaper/magazine *NOW* feature to be incredibly helpful. Stuck in line and don't feel like reading what you've got? buy a magazine/newspaper. OTOH, one needs to be
careful about making too many purchases.

One other thing: I've very much found that the free samples have definitely changed my reading habits. I'll peruse amazon on my computer and send half a dozen samples to my kindle, and use them as starting points when I'm reading to decide if i really want the book.

Chris B says:

"I'd pay for The Atlantic Voices blogs, but they aren't listed yet"

Chris, it is really simple to just create a bookmark in the Kindle browser for each of the Voices blogs.

The pages render just fine and you can even post comments from the Kindle if you're so inclined.

Chris,

I should have added that the Voices pages render fine in the Kindle browser if you set the browser to "Default Mode" rather than "Advanced Mode".

Am I the only person that reads one, maybe two books at a time? I hear raves about how many books it can hold at a given time, and that it's great to take on a vacation, etc. In my personal experience though, I've never had need of lugging more than one book with me anywhere I've gone. Maybe I just don't have long enough vacations.

I could see this being useful for newspaper and magazine reading though.

mad6798j: "Am I the only person that reads one, maybe two books at a time?"

In a way, you're very very lucky. Some of us read too fast for vacation packing. I'm a fan of those kind people who buy a book for a plane and leave it behind when they're done; if you've read all the books you have it really doesn't matter what genre (or quality) is the book left out for you because it's something to read.

Hello, my name is Bibliophile, and I'm a biblioholic...

mad6798j I agree with B Durbin. Depending on the type of holiday, books are a major part of my pack. A week by the beach - 15 books would not be too many. 6 weeks in Europe and Asia saw me struggling as I carried 5 books and tried to turn them over as fast as possible but eventually ran dry. The Kindle (or more accurately its non technology specific free download successor) sounds like the answer to my prayers.

Question: do you need a night light to read it or are the pages illuminated?

iolanthe asks:

"Question: do you need a night light to read it or are the pages illuminated?"

The kindle uses a type of display technology (e-ink) that cannot be backlit therefore you need to provide your own light as necessary - just like a "real" book.

What you get in return though for not having an internal light source is superb battery life measured in days not hours and a display that is fantastic to read in bright sunlight.

And also, it's easy on the eyes. The flicker from computer screens reduces most people's blink rate and strains their eyes; reading a kindle is like reading a book. Apparently it's a high tech automatic etch-a-sketch, or so it has been described to me.

OK, but iis there a Daniel Gilbert, "Subling Upon Happiness"esque fallacy here, that the people you know, having blown an Incredible Wad O'Cash (a "Boodle") on their Kindle, retrospectively tell themselves tehy made the right choice and love love love it?

Sanjay - of course there is.

I've been reading ebooks on various Palms since 2000 and thoroughly enjoy it. My wife has also instituted a buy one, get rid of one rule for additional hard copy acquisition, so an e-library becomes even more attractive.

I ordered the Kindle this weekend and am looking forward to trying it out - my biggest reservation is that it's too big for a coat pocket.

"Semi-academic nonfiction" describes a lot of what I read. I checked out Kindle's product selection a couple of months ago, when the raves first started coming in. I was underwhelmed. This is a deal breaker before we even move on to the discussion of other potential deal breakers.

From what I have seen, Kindle is good for disposable books: the sort of book you leave on a bench when you are done with it. I don't do enough of this sort of reading to tempt me to buy one, but this isn't to say that it doesn't make sense for some people.

The availability for me is mixed - none of the professional stuff is there, half of the things I've recently listened to on audible are there.

The idea of downloading US pop fiction at US prices while abroad is really nice - I HATE paying 12 euros for a paperback mystery, and that's what starts happening to me after a month (the good used English book store in Rome closed last year - boo hoo). That might actually pay for the Kindle over a semester.

An update to my comment about books for the troops.

If there is a VA or military hospital in your area, I am sure they would like your excess books as well.

John Henry

Kindle and pockets-

Will not fit into blue jeans, will fit into:
Front pocket of men's dress pants;
Most Dockers style pants;
Cargo pants;
Other big pockets in modern shorts- front and rear.

I have been able to walk for miles with my Kindle in the pocket of a pair of shorts.

mad6798j I agree with B Durbin. Depending on the type of holiday, books are a major part of my pack. A week by the beach - 15 books would not be too many. 6 weeks in Europe and Asia saw me struggling as I carried 5 books and tried to turn them over as fast as possible but eventually ran dry. "

You're physically able to read 2 books a day? Is that skimming?

6 weeks in europe and Asia sounds like a good vacation. Unfortunately I only get 2 weeks per year, so I've never really run into that problem. I guess it would be a good investment for you.

"You're physically able to read 2 books a day? Is that skimming?"

I suppose it depends on the book. I always suspect that anyone who is impressed by absolute numbers of books isn't a reader.

There seems to be a common idea that vacation reading is light, frothy fiction that you zip through. I don't get this. It seems to be based on the notion that reading something substantive is not fun or relaxing. I don't have the problem of having to lug a library around with me on vacation, since I am likely to take books like that biography of Thomas Jefferson I've been meaning to get to.

Does anyone know if the Kindle will work in Iraq? It would be nice to be able to take my Kindle with me when I deploy this fall.


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