Why? Why can't slaughterhouses pay higher wages to attract employees who are legally authorized to work in this country, and pass along the higher labor costs by raising the prices of the meat they sell? Don't tell me that American citizens won't work in slaughterhouses -- they do now. As with most industries allegedly dependent on illegal immigrant labor, most slaughterhouse workers are citizens or legal residents. Heck, one of the most storied NFL franchises is named in honor of slaughterhouse workers, the Greenbay (meat)Packers.
I agree. We have been consumers of kosher meat over the years, and one assumption behind our purchase, beside pure relious reasons, is that the kosher industry sells a more positive image. The work of The Forward and PETA (and organization that I still have trouble with over its publicity stunts) have thrown this image into higgledy-piggledy. The markup in price is then essentially due to the expense of the kosher certification in circumstances like this.
No, that's not quite fair. Kosher slaughter is a different nature and incurs its own expenses. It's supposed to be a more humane way of slaughter. But, if the conditions of the animals and the workers are deplorable, then what's the point? I understand that AgriProcessors has a business to run, and the decision to go kosher amongst many Jews can boil down to a financial one (as it did my parents), but we have to ask, what's the point of all this?
Legal immigrant workers or not, raiding a factory full of workers is incredibly counterproductive for the business, for the economy, for government revenues, and obviously for the workers themselves. You'd think it'd be a better idea for the authorities to focus on people doing actual harm to people or property, not folks who are earning a living.
"raiding a factory full of workers is incredibly counterproductive for the business"
That's the entire point of the exercise. If the company only hired legal workers then their business would have been hardly interrupted. The only reason it's a problem is because they have chosen to break the law.
The only reason it's a problem is because they have chosen to break the law.
This is not very satisfying. You'd think a problem worth addressing is a problem because it causes harm, not because it's against the law. It seems very unlikely that a meat processing plant that large is causing any damage to the community, state, or country. In the end, it turns out the whole point of this exercise is indeed to be counterproductive for the business involved. Pretty much for it's own sake.
Which, of course, is presumably good for the community, state, and country, throwing a monkey wrench into an otherwise prosperous business, and keeping public resources from doing things like finding people who cause real harm to others.
Why? Why can't slaughterhouses pay higher wages to attract employees who are legally authorized to work in this country, and pass along the higher labor costs by raising the prices of the meat they sell? Don't tell me that American citizens won't work in slaughterhouses -- they do now. As with most industries allegedly dependent on illegal immigrant labor, most slaughterhouse workers are citizens or legal residents. Heck, one of the most storied NFL franchises is named in honor of slaughterhouse workers, the Greenbay (meat)Packers.
Fred,
I agree. We have been consumers of kosher meat over the years, and one assumption behind our purchase, beside pure relious reasons, is that the kosher industry sells a more positive image. The work of The Forward and PETA (and organization that I still have trouble with over its publicity stunts) have thrown this image into higgledy-piggledy. The markup in price is then essentially due to the expense of the kosher certification in circumstances like this.
No, that's not quite fair. Kosher slaughter is a different nature and incurs its own expenses. It's supposed to be a more humane way of slaughter. But, if the conditions of the animals and the workers are deplorable, then what's the point? I understand that AgriProcessors has a business to run, and the decision to go kosher amongst many Jews can boil down to a financial one (as it did my parents), but we have to ask, what's the point of all this?
Legal immigrant workers or not, raiding a factory full of workers is incredibly counterproductive for the business, for the economy, for government revenues, and obviously for the workers themselves. You'd think it'd be a better idea for the authorities to focus on people doing actual harm to people or property, not folks who are earning a living.
"raiding a factory full of workers is incredibly counterproductive for the business"
That's the entire point of the exercise. If the company only hired legal workers then their business would have been hardly interrupted. The only reason it's a problem is because they have chosen to break the law.
Any law restricting the right for people to work is retarded and wrong and should be ignored or abolished. Preferably both.
I love when people say they wish for an end to poverty, then get upset when poor people find jobs.
The only reason it's a problem is because they have chosen to break the law.
This is not very satisfying. You'd think a problem worth addressing is a problem because it causes harm, not because it's against the law. It seems very unlikely that a meat processing plant that large is causing any damage to the community, state, or country. In the end, it turns out the whole point of this exercise is indeed to be counterproductive for the business involved. Pretty much for it's own sake.
Which, of course, is presumably good for the community, state, and country, throwing a monkey wrench into an otherwise prosperous business, and keeping public resources from doing things like finding people who cause real harm to others.
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