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Will the real free traders please stand up?

20 May 2008 07:35 am

This Dean Baker piece seems kind of . . . nutty.


Bob Davis is worried that if elected, Barack Obama may find it difficult to push the same sort of trade pacts as his predecessors. He couches his concern as a fear that Obama may "find it hard to govern as a free trader," but of course none of his predecessors governed as free traders, they governed as selective protectionists.

Trade deals like NAFTA and CAFTA were designed to remove barriers to trade in manufactured goods, thereby putting manufacturing workers in direct competition with low-paid workers in the developing world. This not only put downward pressure on the wages of manufacturing workers, but on the wages of non-college educated workers more generally.

These trade deals did little or nothing to remove the barriers that protect highly paid professionals like doctors and lawyers. There is no economic theory that shows protection for manufactured goods is more harmful than protection for highly paid professional services, so the concern expressed here seems to be that Obama may not pursue trade policies that redistribute income upward with the same vigor as his predecessors.

It is also important to note that a major thrust of recent trade agreements has been to increase protectionists barriers in the form of increased patent and copyright protection. These forms of protection lead to enormous economic distortions, since they can raise prices several by several thousand percent above the competitive market price. In the case of patent protection for prescription drugs, the cost can also be in the form of lives, since many people in developing countries may be unable to afford the patent protected price for life-saving drugs.

Strengthened patent and copyright protection are also inconsistent with free trade, although these measures do also have the effect of redistributing income upward.

Where to start? Items:

1) Legal work is, in fact, now being outsourced to India.

2) Doctors are largely protected not by trade barriers, but by geography. You might as easily argue that we are protecting the hairstyling industry (and to be fair, my last bill at the salon does look a little bloated and inefficent). Things that can be outsourced, notably radiology, increasingly are being outsourced, and the government has not so far intervened.

3) While standards can function as trade barriers, and are often set up for that express purpose, this is not definitionally true. Our air pollution standards are a barrier to the import of cheap Chinese automobiles, but it would take a pretty hard core libertarian to argue that they're a trade barrier. Similarly, requiring lawyers to have demonstrated some facility with US law before they advise clients is not on its face a totally crazy idea. I am certainly open to the argument that we should follow California's lead in relaxing the education requirements, but I don't think the bar exam can be meaningfully construed as a trade barrier.

4) The evidence of income redistribution upwards from trade in low-skilled manufactured goods is pretty thin. More jobs have been eliminated by technological progress than by outsourcing--the US produces more manufactured goods now than it did in 1970 with a much smaller workforce. Furthermore, much of the benefit of trade is captured, not by the wealthy, but by even poorer workers in other places.

5) Immigration is not generally recognized as a trade barrier, because most people think that citizens have some valid interest in who their neighbors and co-voters are. I certainly agree that we should expand high-skilled immigration. But lawyers, for obvious reasons, aren't high on the list of eager emigrants; all their intellectual capital is tied up in the knowledge of a specific legal system. Doctors and consultants are eager immigrants. Thankfully, we let a lot of them in, though I quite agree we should be admitting even more.

6) Property rights are not inconsistent with free trade. I cannot justify selling stolen televisions on the grounds that this is just the working of the free market. The US thinks, with good reason, that intellectual property protections benefit everyone in the country over the long run. Thus, it enforces them by preventing other industries from selling property here that has, legally, been stolen.

How is this different from labor and environmental standards, liberals will ask. Well, we have copyright and patents because otherwise, you have goods with an enormous positive externality, but virtually no positive internality. Companies that use patented ideas without paying for them are creating a big negative externality--reduced incentive to innovate--while internalizing all the benefit from doing so. This is one of those situations where we look for some sort of legal arrangement, which we might call, oh, "intellectual property law", to keep those skewed incentives from making us all ultimately worse off.

In the case of labor and environmental standards, whatever negatives there are are largely internalized to the countries. The awfulness of low wages and environmental standards is presumably even more awful if you are already extremely poor with limited recourse to a safety net. You're unlikely to end up with an inefficient outcome.

7) Some of the biggest growth areas for outsourcing are software and engineering, aka highly paid professional jobs.

Comments (42)

"Immigration is not generally recognized as a trade barrier, because most people think that citizens have some valid interest in who their neighbors and co-voters are."

That's not a very strong argument. Do not most people think that citizens have some valid interest in what, how much, or from whom they import?

It should also be pointed out that many of the people seeking higher education in the sciences are immigrants. My anecdotal evidence is from engineering (specifically chemical engineering), but when I started graduate school there were about 15 other people. Three, including myself, were Americans and one of those was the daughter of immigrants from India. Now I'm working on a post doc in a pharmaceutical sciences department where I have yet to meet another of my kind (post doc from the US).

There is a huge demand for people willing to seek further education in the sciences. I understand why the interest is lacking. Spending 5 years in a PhD program for engineering means loosing 5 years worth of salary. Also the starting salary for PhD is about where one would be if an individual just got a job with their bachelors degree and progressed up the ladder. There is also a tremendous amount of work involved for rewards that are a little light in the monetary area.

The good news is that there are lots of immigrants who are willing to do this work. The bad news is that since September 11th our government has made it more difficult for these people to get into this country and stay here when they are done with school. This is a place where Europe and Australia are clearly benefiting.

Props on this blog post in particular, Megan. It is an overdue take-down of some muddled thinking on trade, which recently seems rather rampant among Democrats.

The widespread enthusiasm for Obama of late is causing many to oversee the fact that he is a reliable partisan in the Congress, and that the majority party has some rather, er, different proposals for the future direction of the country.

Many fail to see that Iraq is the least of our current or future challenges. Republican policy proposals are often dopey and misguided, but their partisan opposites are dopey in a more grandiose, extravagant fashion.

"This not only put downward pressure on the wages of manufacturing workers, but on the wages of non-college educated workers more generally."-Dean Baker

First, the extent to which trade is putting downward pressure on wages for low-skill workers is a matter of great dispute. As the Economist reports, Paul Krugman set out to prove that the effect of trade on wages is large and increasing. He couldn't. As he himself put it:

How can we quantify the actual effect of rising trade on wages? The answer, given the current state of the data, is that we can't.

Many economists believe that technological change is far the more important cause of rising inequality. Technological improvements have raised the demand for skilled labor and diminished the demand for unskilled labor. But that technological change has been a good thing, as all but the most purblind Luddites would agree.

Second, Dean Baker ought to be honest about waht he is advocating. If indeed trade with poor countries around the world is lowering wages for low-skill American workers, that means that it must be raising the wages of low-skill foreign workers. If we are outsourcing work that requires little skill (to Mexico, say), then the demand for low-skill labor in Mexico will rise, putting upward pressure on wages there.

So, Dean Baker wants to impose trade barriers to protect American workers at the expense of some very poor Mexicans. If that's really the preference of left-wingers like Baker, they ought to be honest about it and stop posing as champions of the world's poor, because the policies they advocate would prevent a lot of desperately poor people around the world from rising out of destitution.

There are many other problems with Baker's analysis, as Megan points out, but these are the ones that struck me the most.

rwe:

dean baker does not want to impose trade barriers to protect low skill workers. he simply points out that in his view those "free trade" deals do not deserve the name since they do not tackle potential barriers for higher professionals with the same rigor as they do in the case of low skill manufacturing.

"Doctors are largely protected not by trade barriers, but by geography."

Not true. Doctors are highly protected from competition (though its not exactly trade barriers so much as accreditation/certification requirements, restrictions on the number of medical students etc.)

Try 'Flexner Report' in google or wikipedia.

Roger

Yes, that's true, but those aren't trade barriers; they aren't protected from foreign competition, but from domestic.

and whether such barriers exist or not is of course open to debate. But to conclude that due to the fact that some legal work is already outsourced we already have no barrier in the legal services is like saying that we have free trade in agriculture because you can by avocados from mexico

Well - I think you need to reconsider your statements about labor standards. The labor standards attached to trade deals generally (not exclusively, but by far the majority) set the ILO Core Conventions as their standard. That is international law - law to which most countries, except really wacko ones like North Korea, are signatories. Insistenting that companies live up to their legal obligations for labor standards is no different than insisting they follow international copywrite law.

In my more cynical moments, I think the reason for the insistence on rule of law for copywrites and not labor law is just driven by naked self-interest of the OECD nations. Heaven knows these OECD nationas are all about protectionism when it comes to agricultural products, and there is simply no excuse for that.

You might as easily argue that we are protecting the hairstyling industry

Snort. I can't remember the last time I had my hair cut by someone who was not an apparent immigrant.

Ringerman, look here and here. It seems to me that Dean Baker wants liberalization only when that liberalization doesn't threaten to increase wage inequality. He seems to want to maintain trade barriers that protect low-skill American wrokers from competition.

So Baker and many other leftists favor policies that could boost American wages modestly at the low end, but only at the expense of poor workers in developing countries. Their view amounts to this, then:

Yes, we are willing to further impoverish already indigent Mexicans and Columbians in order to pursue our domestic objectives.

But it doesn't sound so noble when put that way, does it?

While I'm generally in favor of copyright and patent, so I disagree with his general assertion that they're bad for trade;

If I built a house on public property and claimed it for myself, that would be stealing, no?

What, then, should we make of the extension of copyrights which works retroactively? Will people go back in time to produce more artistic work?

It seems to me that the extension robs the public domain.

Likewise, considering that the US no longer exercises any discernment in which patents are approved or rejected and lets everything be fought out in court, I think it's fair to say that the modern system is an effective barrier to innovation.

But I don't take issue with drug patents as Baker seems to. They're necessary and typically appropriate (with some exceptions, like AZT.)

rwe:

so, you have already changed from "So, Dean Baker wants to impose trade barriers to protect American workers at the expense of some very poor Mexicans." to

"He seems to want to maintain trade barriers that protect low-skill American wrokers from competition." which is maybe not such a big distortion of his view.


"Yes, we are willing to further impoverish already indigent Mexicans and Columbians in order to pursue our domestic objectives."
That is actually his point on property rights and barriers for high professionals.

the US no longer exercises any discernment in which patents are approved or rejected

Spoken like somebody who has never had to file a Request for Continued Examination.

I'll grant that the PTO has issues, though.

i meant copyrights

Ringerman, I don't think I changed my representation of Baker's view. If I seemed to, that was unintentional.

Nor do I have any special animus against him. Read the first link to his work that I gave. His argument is quite interesting. I disagree with it, but it is certainly not the work of a fool or an ignoramus.

But I think that neither you nor he can get away from the fundamental fact that imposing the sort of trade barriers he wants will harm low-skill workers in developing countries. Outsourcing of low-skill jobs increases the demand for foreign low-skill labor and raises wages--and curtailing that outsourcing would do real harm to a lot of people (in India, for example).

Anyway, I don't have time to continue this argument today, but I'll gladly read any further criticism you have of my posts. And incidentally, I want to remove all trade barriers (unless they have a clear national security justification). I don't want to protect rich or poor Americans from trade. His arguments about copyrights and patents seem a little odd to me, though. Those are a means of protecting intellectual property, and that protection is essential to creating the proper incentives for innovation.

If the goal is to raise living standards, we stifle innovation at our peril.

Agreed, I think too many persons on the left forget that increased trade has brought enormous benefits to the poor around the world. I am, for many reasons (particularly the war in Iraq) an Obama supporter, but I do hope he resists the silly calls for protectionism. Such measures tend to just get us slapped with illegal tariff judgements (like the steel tariffs).

We need more, not less, international trade. I, for one, think the ideal argument to make is that shareholders are getting fucked by CEO compensation and should launch lawsuits demanding their companies hire equally talented Indian senior managers who would be more than willing to work in the C-suite for, say, 200k a year, instead of $20 million.

szr,

Just for my own edification, can you provide me with an example of a company who's shareholders are 'f###ed' by CEO compensation?

As a lawyer admitted to practice in New York and California, I can assure you that the bar exam serves almost no purpose, other than protect lawyers from out-of-state competitors and fill the coffers of barbri (the company with the near monopoly in bar exam preparation courses).

The exam only proves you are a decent test taker with good memory, not that you will be a good lawyer. In fact, to pass, you have to pretty much forget what you learned in law school. Many accomplished attorneys have failed because of this. (Maybe because I am not so accomplished, I passed both exams on my first try).

California, is one of the worst. You cannot practice there even if you are admitted in other States. This is a huge barier of entry for out-of-state lawyers. Unless you have huge savings or a very nice employeer who will pay you for the prep courses, study for the bar exam and wait for the results (which, in total, will take about 6 months), you cannot move to California as a lawyer and practice law.

I can assure you that the bar exam serves almost no purpose...

I used to think that, until I encountered tax protesters and UCC redemption lunatics in court. Anything that keeps those people from dispensing advice and representing people is a good thing. That's not to say that the bar is the best way to do business, but a free-for-all isn't a good idea either.

In fact, to pass, you have to pretty much forget what you learned in law school.

Is that meant to condemn the bar exam or law school?

I'm WA and OR barred, and the WA exam (which is all essay, no MBE, no MPRE) is actually a good one, because it's all about WA law and only WA law (plus Fed. Con law). The MBE is flat-out stupid; who cares what the elements of common-law burglary are, considering NO STATE uses them?

szr,

Just for my own edification, can you provide me with an example of a company who's shareholders are 'f###ed' by CEO compensation?

GM. Among other issues, GM is paying bonuses to its executives while it craters. Of course this is made worse by the poor marketing, poor design, poor engineering, bureaucratic inertia and massive labour issues that also plague GM.

I'm certainly not a 'compensating CEO's highly is Evil' type, but paying bonuses while a company self-destructs is pretty damned silly, doncha think?

Likewise, considering that the US no longer exercises any discernment in which patents are approved or rejected and lets everything be fought out in court, I think it's fair to say that the modern system is an effective barrier to innovation.

Wrong...the real problem is that Congress opened the door to software and business process patents, rapidly speeding up an IP landgrab that was already forming. The patent office is simply overbooked by sheer volume of applications. You can easily see this be reviewsing a broad spectrum of high-tech patents granted between the mid 1980s and now; up to about 1995, 18mo-3 year differences are typical between the filing date and the granting date. From 1995 to the present, that gap quickly widens to four years, then five, and occassionally six. It probably goes up to seven after that but those patents are still in review.

The 90s being over, that bubble may trim down a bit in the years ahead, but probably not to the pre-1995 level unless either major patent reform or a patent office expansion is undertaken.

Speaking of retroactively extended copyright, that reminds me of the astounding disparities between patent and copyright protection:

Copyright:

1) Write something down, and it is copyrighted. To make it official (i.e. to gain statutory protection and cause of action), register it with the government in your country for a nominal fee.
2) You are now protected, almost worldwide, for life, plus 70 years.
3) Not only can you sue for infringement, but you can enlist the FBI and Interpol, per those scary warnings at the start of your videos. Civil and criminal penalties apply.
3) If you or your publisher die and/or go out of business, and cannot give permission, the work is and orphan, and cannot be legally reproduced.

Patent

1) Spend years developing a novel invention.
2) Attempt to prove to various worldwide patent agencies that your invention is novel using varying arcane rules and in different languages.
3) Spend up to $500K or more to ensure this happens in a decent number of countries.
4) This only gives you the right sue for your rights. No criminal protection ensues.
5) If the patent is approved and proceeds quickly, you will gain maybe 15-17 years of protection. Then it is public property.
6) If you do not commercialize your invention, or seem slow in doing so, you can be forced to work it or license it to others to do so.

This discrepancy seems manifestly unjust.

That's not a very strong argument. Do not most people think that citizens have some valid interest in what, how much, or from whom they import?

Posted by Nelson | May 20, 2008 8:42 AM

That is already controlled by where you choose to spend your money. You want to cut down on imports, by more domestically produced goods.

The fundamental bottom theory behind free trade is that who-ever/where-ever is best suited to produce a product should be allowed to do so. That makes the world work more efficiently and benifits everybody. The benifits are not always in income though, they can even be environmental, such as moving agriculture from the central valleys of California (which are a desert), to high rainfall areas of Central America - reducing water diversion from streams and lakes and also reducing the inflow of illegal immigrants. Some jobs are lost, but everyone gets cheaper fruit - which is another benefit that goes un-mentioned in the article. All Americans receive the benifits of lower prices, while relatively few lose their jobs. If we had high unemployment, this might be a poor trade, but since the 5% rate of current unemployment is considered 'full employment', there is no pressing need to protect jobs. Anyone who wants a job can get one - it's not like the millions of American's who've lost their jobs because of free trade are sitting around unemployed, they got new jobs and got over it. If that weren't the case there wouldn't be millions of people in other countries with backgrounds from no education up to PHDs clamoring to come work here too.

The awfulness of low wages and environmental standards is presumably even more awful if you are already extremely poor with limited recourse to a safety net.

However, not as bad as no wages and no safety net.

I wouldn't want plenty of the jobs we sent to China. I wouldn't want the factory jobs I did back in my college days either. Working in IT is much cleaner and less physically taxing. However, any of those jobs beat no job at all.

Adam Maas,

GM on it's face isn't a good example.

What has been the impact on shareholder value due to these bonuses?

What were the bonuses for? Making a company that is losing X billion a year only lose .7X billion this year and .5X next year, could be worth a bonus.

Employees who take th risk of joining a failing company may need some time of incentive structure to balance the risk. How does that address the bonuses?

Megan, the medical profession is probably the most over-regulated and protectionist "market" in the US. The AMA effectively controls the number of students admitted to medical schools. That's monopolistic control of the labor supply.

http://www.mises.org/story/1547#_7_

"To return to medicine, it is the provision about graduation from approved schools that is the most important source of professional control over entry. The profession has used this control to limit numbers." Blocking entry is much more effective than just raising the real price of a medical license; the "far more important" measure is "establishing standards for admission and licensure that make entry so difficult as to discourage young people from ever trying to get admission. (Friedman)"

Geography, my ass. And do you have any examples of how unions of hairstylists have used licensure to limit the numbers of stylists? Your comparison is ridiculous.

Megan wrote, "I am certainly open to the argument that we should follow California's lead in relaxing the education requirements, but I don't think the bar exam can be meaningfully construed as a trade barrier."

Sure it is. There is no reason that people can't decide for themselves the qualifications desirable for a legal representative. The bar exam exists specifically to impose as a barrier to entry on the job of legal representation. That's a trade barrier, pure and simple.

And why not just expand the H-1b program and allow law firms to import lawyers? Whole markets could develop overseas to educate lawyers to pass the bar exam. While we're at it, let's make the rules the same ones endured by high tech workers. Why no H-1b for lawyers? Because white-collar free-traders are filthy hypocrites, that's why.

It's easy to see that free traders will soap-box about the benefits of free trade --- until their job goes overseas.

"That is already controlled by where you choose to spend your money. You want to cut down on imports, by more domestically produced goods.

Posted by Todd | May 20, 2008 3:46 PM "

Looking at it one way, you can choose where you live. Looking at it another way: Do you really have the right to choose who your "neighbors and co-voters are?"

There are a number of fairly recent examples of executive compensastion, and the conflicts of interest that allowed them to arrise, going to court. For instance, Broadband Corp., United Health, Comverse Technologies and a host of others are facing very serious shareholder lawsuits.

Now, these are all pretty egregious examples, but at a more fundamental level, I object to exempting executives from the outsourcing trend. There are CEOs well worth their weight in gold, like Steve Jobs - I firmly believe Apple's stock would take a huge hit if he were to announce his retirement - but that's a very different thing from, say, when Karl Linder bought a controlling share of Chiquita Brands International and installed his idiot son as CEO of the company, who proceeded to run it into the ground until it was bankrupt. If I were a Chiquita shareholder, I would be furious (as they were), especially since since Karl was the Chairman of the Board and the person who approved both his son's hiring and his multimillion dollar salary.

I think with very few exceptions (I guess you could call it the Steve Jobs exception), most companies would be just as well run by the highly competent senior managers from places like India, for a fraction of the price. I mean, look at the Tata Empire - they have an executive pool that should be the envy of most companies. And they also are paid a fraction of what their American counterparts make. So at the very least you have to prove that having an American CEO is worth paying 200x the salary of an Indian CEO, and I doubt most could. Ergo, the shareholders are suffering for the enrichment of the firm's bureaucrats - something that is actually illegal.

The problem with outsourcing isn't that there's too much of it going on, it's that there's too little!

Quote: "...the US produces more manufactured goods now than it did in 1970."

Huh? Perhaps I'm a victim of "Pauline Kael Syndrome", but I can't think of a single thing I own that was made in America. There's the food in my kitchen, and I imagine the gas in my 1984 SAAB was refined in the U.S. Otherwise, everything in my home was manufactured abroad.
I do own an M1 Garand rifle, but that was made way back when.
So, if the U.S. produces all these manufactured goods, what are they?

szr,

All of the cases you cited are either resulting in lawsuits, as they should, or have nothing to do with compensation. If Linder made $1 a year and ran the company to the ground, they would still go bankrupt.

No one prevents the C-level employees from being staffed in India, but the business would most likely run more smoothly with someone stateside. That being said, moving a CEO from India to the US would probably be economical, but would erode the savings over time. I think many boards and shareholders would be scared of having significant members of their companies not located in the US, assuming the rest of HQ is.

Actually, all of the cases I cited are resulting in lawsuits based on executive compensation, and it was in response to your question regarding examples of companies in which shareholder value was hurt by exec compensation.

The point is that the endemic conflicts of interest - with CEOs sitting on each others' compensation committees etc. creates a system where top managers are insulated from competition and hence enrich themselves. The Linder example matters because a shareholder with less than 10 percent stake in the company essentially fucked the remaining 90+ percent of shareholders and the only obvious benefits went to his son and Dole Foods.

Competition from Indian management and outsourcing of jobs (and the importation of non-conflicted talent from abroad) would both lower costs for the firm and may improve productivity (assuming that conflicted managers are less likely to be competent than non-conflicted managers because they aren't protected by buddies if they suck at their job). I agree, there are concerns about locating senior staff abroad, but the option is rarely discussed because senior managers generally assume outsourcing is for other job categories. I don't agree it should be.

Also, to be clear, my objection isn't to paying people what they're worth; my objection is CEO pay coming at the expense of shareholders. Outsourcing management is, in my opinion, an effective way of combating this problem.

congrats on getting so many things wrong in such a short comment.

The fact that legal work is being outsourced is hardly evidence of free trade in legal. This is one of the best examples I have yet seen of the Mexican avocado theory of free trade -- the argument that because we can get an avocado grown in Mexico in the grocery store, that we have free trade in agriculture.

Of course we don't have free trade in agriculture and we don't free trade in lawyers. Barriers are to trade are almost never absolute (we've imported textiles for 100 years, but still had serious barriers).

Let's see outsourcing of doctors (actually the radiology story is a myth) it's a good idea, but it barely scratches the surface.

The obstacle to doctors working here is not immigration -- it is licensing requirements deliberately designed to prvenet competition. They can come here and work as dishwashers, just not as doctors.

Yes trade has lowered the wages of manufacturing workers. I don't think any economists question that fact, they just argue over its size.

Finally, we can find much more efficient ways to support research into drugs and creative work than patents and copyrights (I guess you haven't caught wind of all the scandals in the pharmaceutical industry -- if they prosecuted this stuff, we would double our prison population.) Just because you want to call protectionist barriers "property rights" does not end their status as protectionist barriers. (maybe we should call steel tariffs, property rights -- actually, we can have salable quotas for importing steel, but the McArdle definition the quotas would then be property and therefore not protectionism. This is great way to get to free trade. I love the McArdle world!)

But Dean, a patent (or regulations governing the practice of law or medicine) says that nobody, domestic or foreign, can sell the patented technology or unlicensed service in the US without a the proper permission. It limits Americans no more and no less than foreigners. Additionally, patents are available to foreign actors who wish to make importation the sole means of obtaining a particular technology, so patents also benefit Americans no more and no less than foreigners.

The normal definition of "protectionist measure" is something like a tariff or quota: it leaves domestic producers unfettered while foreign producers are limited or taxed. Patents, copyrights, and professional licensing do not meet that definition.

Someone needs to get their jargon straight. I think the point of the idea one can't outsource doctors is that it's highly unlikely that one would get on a plane to India just to get a check-up. For the same reason, auto mechanics will never fear for their jobs getting outsourced. Licensing requirements to practice in the United States are actually irrelevant to the discussion, since a doctor practicing stateside is by definition *not* outsourced. What you are apparently trying to do is bring "insourcing" into this discussion, which is another topic, mostly having to do with immigration. To the point of outsourcing professional services, there's plenty of things that Indian and other offshore workers can do (certain litigation support tasks, etc.) as well as anyone here for much less money, which is why they're getting the work. As to admissions to practice before a court in the States, it seems to me like allowing states to set their standards of licensure has no bearing on the "free trade" issue. We shouldn't allow our frustration at the "closed shop" set-up of the legal and medical professions confuse the argument.

Huh? Perhaps I'm a victim of "Pauline Kael Syndrome", but I can't think of a single thing I own that was made in America. There's the food in my kitchen, and I imagine the gas in my 1984 SAAB was refined in the U.S. Otherwise, everything in my home was manufactured abroad.
I do own an M1 Garand rifle, but that was made way back when. So, if the U.S. produces all these manufactured goods, what are they?

Oh, power infrastructure equipment (notice how your computer still has electricity), power infrastructure and industrial control systems, firearms, aerospace, shipbuilding, defense contracting, specialty industrial vehicles (e.g. refuse trucks), automobiles and a range of automotive parts (including a majority of US-market Honda and Toyota products), pharmaceuticals, healthcare equipment, Intel computer microprocessor dies, Micron computer memory products, and some commercial-grade information technology equipment, to name just a few major products.

There are also a very wide range of smaller industries operating in the US to produce electrical and mechanical components for consumer and light industry, as well as specialty consumer markets such as high-end audio, designer clothing, and high-dollar recreational gear.

Licensing requirements to practice in the United States are actually irrelevant to the discussion, since a doctor practicing stateside is by definition *not* outsourced. What you are apparently trying to do is bring "insourcing" into this discussion, which is another topic, mostly having to do with immigration (mojosync).
Nope. H-1b is not about immigration nor about outsourcing, it's about cheapening labor costs for high tech companies. We should bring doctors here on H-1b, but we can't because of anti-trade protectionism among the American medical profession itself.

I think you are missing the central piece of his argument. Its that labor mobility is not in par with capital mobility.

If there was true free trade, the number of H1B visas would be infinite. Any lawyer clearing the bar in say India would be allowed to travel down here and practice. Ditto for software engineers/doctors.

He is at least partially right, that unless you have free labor movement you don't have free trade.

Well, to clarify things on the medical side:

I am a doctor, a graduate of a US medical school. The trade restrictions on medicine are not about how many are admitted to medical school; any graduate worldwide who takes the US Medical Licensure Examinations is free to apply to residency programs in the US. The bottleneck is in residency, not medical school.

If you want to be a general-practice country doctor, you will find that you will easily get into a residency, get your training, get your service requirements (for non-citizens), and practice medicine. The trade-unionism occurs when highly-desirable fields limit residency positions. If you just want to be a doctor - pass the exams, even if unimpressively, and you will get a position in pediatrics or family medicine (the least remunerative of medical fields). If you want to be a dermatologist, you'd better be in the top 5% of your (American med school) class.

Yes, there's a lot going on as far as restriction of position, but it's hard to blame it on the AMA when it's the subspecialty groups that are causing the limitation. In my own specialty - anesthesiology - graduating residents today are taking jobs paying about 1/3 less in non-adjusted dollars than they did 15 years ago. And we're among the best-paid in medicine.

As bad as this is I agree with the McCain campaign suggestion that we talk on blogs about this being the time for solutions. Just like the solution the McCain campaign came up with to get rid of some of the lobbyists in his campaign. It was a novel solution to a poilitical problem devised by the two former lobbyists still in charge of his campaign.

I am excited to be a part of this national McCain blogging effort.

Re: There is a huge demand for people willing to seek further education in the sciences.

Really? Where is it then? When I graduated wit ha BS in physics some 16 years ago job prospects for PhDs in the hard sciences were pretty meager. I knew guys in their 30s trapped in endless post-doc hell. That’s why I didn’t go on with my education: the jobs just weren’t there. And in fact, I very much doubt things have turned around. If anything, they may have gotten worse.

Re: Otherwise, everything in my home was manufactured abroad.

Do you have electric lights? Virtually all light bulbs sold in the USA are made in the USA.
Additionally I suspect that if you have any books in your house most of them were written and printed in the US. You may also have hand-craft items that were made here. That’s three things right off the top of head. Look around, you’ll no doubt find others.