Megan McArdle

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A little more gadget blogging

26 Aug 2008 01:23 pm

Coolest thing I've seen all week.  Anyone have an opinion about whether it, would, like, work?  I don't want to be the hippest corpse at the pearly gates.

Comments (8)

I think it's best not to be an early adopter of that technology.

If you think that is cool check out the Fit-5. Saw their Pre-IPO dog and pony show last week. (Sounds a little too much like to Foxcatcher 5, but apparently better at putting out fires)

http://www.arasafety.com/products/fit-5.htm

Needs to be shoulder-fired and have a sight. And you'd want training; you play like you practice, and a fire is no time to be learning marksmanship.

I concur with Rob. Put a point on the rounds and some velocity behind them and they could be used to blow up intruders.

True story of Regulatory Madness, connected to this story:

A while back, I was being trained in safety procedures so that I could work in a building with ammonia and freon cooling testbeds. The trainer - a worker at a large national civilian space exploration agency here in the US - was asked about putting out fires and said that we should simply evacuate the building and pull the fire alarm as we left, rather than use the extinguisher on the wall in the lab on a small fire. Unless, of course, we had been to school on using extinguishers and had the required refreshers from time to time.

It is against OSHA rules to use a fire extinguisher at a work site unless you have gone through training that certifies you to operate one. You and your company can be found in violation of OSHA rules, fined, etc. I decided that I'd risk the wrath of OSHA rather than allow a building to be gutted. I figured that some ridiculing press stories and letters from congresscritters asking why they were going after the guy who put out the fire would be an effective shield.

Now, if the ammonia alarms were going off while there was a fire, I was out of there in a flash. Ammonia is nasty, nasty stuff.

Ech,
I was trained at work to use several different types of fire extinguishers to put out various fires. Before the training, they did a demonstration. They asked for volunteers to put out a fire with an extinguisher. Every one of them failed to put out the fire while emptying the extinguisher. If you don't know what you are doing, you are likely emptying an extinguisher that someone who does know what they are doing could have used to put out a fire. If you do know what you are doing, and just don't have a piece of paper that says so, put the fire out.

Oh yeah, will it work?

If they're selling them, they probably work. You can make good money selling crap that doesn't work, but generally you don't want people to die horribly as a result. Diet pills, acne cream and gambling systems that don't work are generally OK. Fire extinguishers that don't work will eventually lead to a lawsuit that eats all your profits, original investment and possibly your clothing. They might even be mitigating evidence when someone is put on trial for committing violent crimes against you. You want to avoid that sort of thing. My father once told me, "Never give anybody completely mitigating circumstances for murdering you."

As a technical matter, when using CO2, you want to displace oxygen from the flame as quickly and completely as possible. This delivery system looks like it could be superior in that regard, provided it doesn't scatter flaming material all over the place in the process.

Rob: The launcher includes a laser pointer, so sighting should be pretty easy - except how do you hold it steady? It looks like the designers preferred not looking like a gun to actually being effective...

basement underpants guy

Q: How do you know you are reading a Libertarian blog?
A: You read a post that suggests a cool way to put out a fire would be to shoot at it.

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